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  • 08-30-2015, 06:41 PM#1


    HW 4 series processor

    Hi,

    I have a HW 4 series processor, and I'm trying to extract the program, but every-time I add a processor in the Illumination software it adds a H4P5 and its saying is a processor series 5 so not a series 4 and it gives me an error every-time I want to extract the program.

    Any idea?

    Thank you.

  • 09-01-2015, 07:12 AM#2

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    bitza89,

    If you have an H4 series processor then it will need to use the Interactive software to extract. H4P5 processors are Illumination processors. Please download the HomeWorks Interactive software and try extracting.
    Originally Posted by bitza89

    Hi,

    I have a HW 4 series processor, and I'm trying to extract the program, but every-time I add a processor in the Illumination software it adds a H4P5 and its saying is a processor series 5 so not a series 4 and it gives me an error every-time I want to extract the program.

    Any idea?

    Thank you.


  • 09-01-2015, 07:32 AM#3


    Hi Kevin,

    Thank you, great info I just installed the interactive and found the processor.
    one more question in regards to the extraction of the program, can it only be extract via RS232?

    Thank you.

  • 09-01-2015, 07:33 AM#4

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    bitza89,

    Correct. Interactive processors did not have an Ethernet connection. They only supported RS232. Ethernet connection was not supported on the processors until the Illumination era.
    Originally Posted by bitza89

    Hi Kevin,

    Thank you, great info I just installed the interactive and found the processor.
    one more question in regards to the extraction of the program, can it only be extract via RS232?

    Thank you.


  • 09-01-2015, 07:36 AM#5


    Hi Kevin,

    Then thats even more confusing because my one has an RJ 45 connection and I can see it on the network.
    The name one the processor is Home Works 4 Series Processor.

    I will give it a try with the RS232. Thank you.

  • 09-01-2015, 10:33 AM#6

    Junior Member
    I guess there is some confusion between the term 4 Series / 8 Series processor which refers to its functional range, and the term series 4 (interactive) / series 5 (illumination) which means the version. Both version 4 and 5 had 4 and 8 series models. If you have a RJ 45 connection it has to be a series 5 version.

    Harry
    Originally Posted by bitza89

    Hi Kevin,

    Then thats even more confusing because my one has an RJ 45 connection and I can see it on the network.
    The name one the processor is Home Works 4 Series Processor.

    I will give it a try with the RS232. Thank you.


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  • post #1 of 12Old09-30-2015, 01:22 PM - Thread Starter
     
     
    Replace Lutron Homeworks Interactive System

    The home I purchased 7 years ago has a Lutron Homeworks Interactive System in it. After 7 years, it is having some issues as of last night. It might be the processor, in which case lutron is recommending upgrading to a lutron QS system. This is obviously a pretty expensive endeavor.

    I really don't need all the fancy features of a lutron system. I simply need to turn the lights on and off.

    Is there another low voltage lighting system in the market that is more affordable than upgrading which would install using the same wiring foundation that is already in place for my lutron homeworks interactive system?

    Or is it just most cost effective to upgrade to a lutron QS system. I think the upgrade will cost around $3500 for the process and programming, assuming I can use the other components of my current system.

    Your help is much appreciated.
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    post #2 of 12Old09-30-2015, 01:47 PM
     
     
    Originally Posted by lutron
    The home I purchased 7 years ago has a Lutron Homeworks Interactive System in it. After 7 years, it is having some issues as of last night. It might be the processor, in which case lutron is recommending upgrading to a lutron QS system. This is obviously a pretty expensive endeavor.

    I really don't need all the fancy features of a lutron system. I simply need to turn the lights on and off.

    Is there another low voltage lighting system in the market that is more affordable than upgrading which would install using the same wiring foundation that is already in place for my lutron homeworks interactive system?

    Or is it just most cost effective to upgrade to a lutron QS system. I think the upgrade will cost around $3500 for the process and programming, assuming I can use the other components of my current system.

    Your help is much appreciated.
    You could go up to the current processor, a QS-series box, but I don't think you'll be able to convert the existing lighting file; it will have to be re-written. I get the order of the Lutron systems mixed up, but when this happened to one of our customers, we put in a Homeworks Illumination processor (I think). It's newer than Interactive, but the lighting file can be converted to go right into the processor with no other changes. This came in really handy because it was a big house. It would have been a chore to re-write all that.

    You may want to have the programming extracted before the processor actually dies or becomes too unstable.
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    post #3 of 12Old10-03-2015, 09:01 AM
     
     
    Location: Toronto, Canada
    If you have a wifi network in your house, you can use Insteon Home Hub. It would cost you about $100 with 2 dimmer switches. You can control the lighting (with the Insteon dimmer switches) with your iPhone or other Smartphone (Insteon Hub app is free). You can buy Insteon in Smarthome.com and some of them in Home Depot.
    I am using Insteon and also Logitech Home Hub (to control my home entertaintment systems). Insteon 2245-22 integrates with Logitech Home Hub.

    If you do not have wifi in your house, you can buy a wifi router to set up a LAN in your house, another $100. You do not have to connect to internet for it to work.

    Last edited by e268; 10-03-2015 at 09:05 AM.
    post #4 of 12Old10-03-2015, 10:06 AM
     
     
    Homeworks is generally a panelized lighting solution--all loads are home-run back to central dimming panels. Replacing it with in-wall dimmer switches (like Insteon) is going to require re-wiring the entire home.

    To the OP, I would find a local Lutron dealer. Lutron still has the Homeworks Illumination series processors in stock, so you could upgrade to that without needing to reprogram the system. With Illumination you also get the benefit of having the system network-enabled so it will integrate with all of Lutron's mobile apps.
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    post #5 of 12Old10-03-2015, 10:58 AM
     
     
    Location: Toronto, Canada
    Instead of rewiring the whole house, can OP just get rid of the Homeworks, and reconnect all the wiring to supply power to the in-wall switches, using existing wiring at the Homework box? Of cause he will need an electrician to do it if he is not handy.
    post #6 of 12Old10-03-2015, 11:19 AM
     
     
    Just seems unnecessary (and frankly, absurd) to replace all of the working dimming modules, module interfaces, dimmers, keypads, and controller(s) with an inferior Insteon system when all he needs to do is replace a single processor. Homeworks products carry an 8- or 11-year warranty--replace with Illumination or QS and be done with it.
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    post #7 of 12Old10-03-2015, 11:37 AM
     
     
    Originally Posted by e268
    Instead of rewiring the whole house, can OP just get rid of the Homeworks, and reconnect all the wiring to supply power to the in-wall switches, using existing wiring at the Homework box? Of cause he will need an electrician to do it if he is not handy.
    If it's a panelized Homeworks system, there are no in-wall switches to connect to. The wall "switches" will just be control keypads.

    I agree with another poster. If the dimmer panels and keypads work, then just replacing the master controller is a no brainer.
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    post #8 of 12Old10-03-2015, 12:08 PM
     
     
    Location: Toronto, Canada
    It is all the matter with cost. Yes, Insteon maybe inferior, maybe in cost only, not functionality. If it cost $3500 to get a new Homeworks panel, and everytime you need some programming done, and it is additional cost, then, replacing all wall switches with Insteon dimmers would be a much cheaper alternative. Other benefits of Insteon is video monitors, Thermostat control, mechanized curtains, water leaking monitor, general motion sensors, garage door control, etc. You can monitor all these in your iPhone when you are away from home too, and it is DYI. I am not knocking these expensive systems like Homeworks or Savant, just a suggestion the OP asked for a less costing alternative.
    post #9 of 12Old10-03-2015, 12:13 PM
     
     
    It's not a matter of replacing all the wall switches. He might have to rewire the whole house to put switches where he needs them. Converting from a panelized lighting system to a traditional layout is a non-trivial undertaking.
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    post #10 of 12Old10-03-2015, 03:47 PM
     
     
    The Lutron Home Control+ app allows the user to make programming changes themselves, control and monitor the system from anywhere, etc.
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    post #11 of 12Old10-03-2015, 03:59 PM
     
     
    Location: Give a monkey a brain...
    OP - how old is the system?

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    post #12 of 12Old10-07-2015, 09:12 AM
     
     
    Hold on... What is it actually doing?
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